BJSL_70, windchart and tornado

[kieenthus]

sry, but i find out that some windchart for BJSL_70 in your web is wrong( wind oposite) , because it's not only depend on windstreng but also depend on distance ...

i play gunbound for 1 month, always use BJSL_70 and i not a pro, can you show me some ex with tornado in BJSL_70.

it seem so hard with BJSL_70, there are many kinds of tornado (small, medium, large), and the shot line is depend on wind ...

Reply if you are pro and have ex with tornado or BJSL_70

Thank to CreeDo alot

[CreeDo]

I dunno if I would call the bjsl 70 chart "wrong". It is just that you cannot make a different windchart for every distance. It would be too much work to make a big windchart, and too much work for another person to memorize.

So the windchart is the best info available for an 'average' shot, a shot that is not very close (like inside half screen) or very far (like over 1.5 screens).

If you see what I mean but still feel some wind factors are wrong, please post which ones are wrong. But I will be surprised if you find errors in KNAT guild information, which is usually very good info. Especially if you have only played 1 month.

About tornados: There is no sure formula for tornados but achala gave some useful info: If the tornado is about in the middle between you and the enemy, or maybe a bit closer to you than the enemy, reduce your power by .2 bars. So instead of 60, 2.5 for 1 screen, use 60 2.3 if there is a tornado almost in the middle between you and the enemy.

Some tornado advice:

• Low angles are much easier to estimate and much safer to use than high angles. Sometimes it's not even possible to hit a shot with a high angle through a nado, but the same shot with a low angle becomes easy.

• For a tornado a little further than halfway between you and the enemy, try the same power you would if there is no tornado.

• The closer the nado is to you, the more you must reduce power. If the nado is close to the enemy then you must add power. It is easier to think of it this way: The closer your shot is to the top of its arc (highest part of your shot), then the less power 'adjustment' is needed. You only + or - a little power if the shot enters the nado at the highest places in the shot's path. You must + or - a lot more power if the shot enters the nado at the lowest point.

• The easiest way to deal with tornados is to remember a "maximum" tornado adjustment for an average nado shot. Like if you are inside a nado and shooting near angle 60 or 70 with armor, the maximum adjustment is about .8 bars of power. So if the shot enters the nado halfway between the highest point and the lowest point, maybe reduce by .4 bars.

• If you are good at making shots with a big height difference, try to imagine shooting the shot from a high place on the other side of the tornado. This picture shows what I mean.
creedo.gbgl-hq.com/nado_shot_trick.jpg
This is made for boomer in 0 wind, but the same trick can be used with any bot.

[kieenthus]

Thank to Creedo !!!

Your mention help me alot. I know that every people have themselve windchart, i will find windchart for myself.

I think that some windfactor is wrong, such as 4.5 (up and opp), it must be 5 and over in strong wind (20+). I have just play for 1 month, but my ex is true.

Wind up and forward is 0.7 in <= 1SD, i dont think it is different in small and medium wind.

Wind up and down should be 0.22 ( not 0.2 or 0.25). You can use 0.2 in 1/2 -> 3/4 SD, but for >= 1 SD, it should be 0.22 < 0.25. ( because of for strong power, 1/2 more angle make a large distance).

Thank to Knat and Creedo again because you help me so much. Dont think that i boring you. I just want to make it more acurate for every one love gunbuond. I believe that you will understand me, reply me if i have any mistake and plzz give me some ex for BJSL_70 in >=1SD.

Thank alot, plzz reply and forgive me if my english is too bad ... ^_^

[CreeDo]

Wow, that's very sharp to have exactly .22 wind factor etc. I think you are right, some of the factors are not accurate.

But... do you want to do the work to make a new windchart? If you do, I will put it on my site. I would like to see an accurate windchart, especially over 1 SD.

[kieenthus]

Thanks alot again !!!
You make me surprise with your idea. You know me just play GB for 1 month, learn alot from other, less ex, but you agree with me ... so kind and fair.
With your idea, i must play serious ... it seem so hard because if i post a windchart, it must be so accurate!
^_^
i have a windchart for myself but it is just 85% accurate ( i think so ). And i have many problem with over 1SD. If you like to see it, i will send to you. Or you can wait me for more accurate windchart in the future.
I think i have to play alot to make it acurate
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another question for creedo: do you think your formula is acurate: newpower = power*sqrt(newdis/dis)
i think it is not very acurate for over 1 SD, it is weak a bit compare with true power ...

[CreeDo]

newpower = power*sqrt(newdis/dis)

For that formula, I have found it to be 100% accurate. I think the problem is that for low power shots, like half screen shots, your angle or power can be a little lazy, and to use this calculation you must have exactly the right power. Like for turtle, both angle 67 or 66 with 2.0 bars will hit half screen.
But if you want to hit 2 screens, using the formula, you must use 67 full, it is not ok to use 66.

The important thing is your power for original distance must be exact and perfect. You must know the original power to the exact pixel, like guessing 2.5 is not good enough, if the power should be 2.47.

I would like to look at your windchart, email it to [e-mail]

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