Flamehawk2
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How to dual shot?
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Post by Flamehawk2 on Jul 12, 2005 11:17:43 GMT -5
If I am Aduka, and my angle is 45, what power would make the shot go --EXACTLY-- 1 screen?
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Post by CreeDo on Jul 15, 2005 15:39:50 GMT -5
I'm going to guess 2.37... try it and tell me if it works.
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Post by n00b4LiFeSk8 on Jul 15, 2005 19:38:19 GMT -5
I was fooling around with the magic formula one day (at school ^^) and found out that angle 60 and angle 45 go pretty much the same distance.
i cant remember how I got it (was a long time ago) but it seemed accurate.
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Post by CreeDo on Jul 15, 2005 23:15:29 GMT -5
They don't quite go the same, I found that 60 is pretty much always .1 more power needed than angle 45. Aduka's 1 screen 60 is 2.45 or something, so that's why I think 2.37 if using 45.
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Post by Flamehawk2 on Jul 17, 2005 10:37:32 GMT -5
Are you sure? Because maybe if i know what power 1 screen is at angle 45, i can keep that same power and divide up the screen into 45 parts. Just like the 2.4 Method only with 45 parts.
Oh yeah, I msged you the other day and said "hi" and tried to add you, but you rejected and just said "hi" back. Then I explained that I changed my ID to xAdUkARuLeSx and asked, :Remember me? I am your co-admin on your ask teh pro site." And you never responded. Lol.
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Post by CreeDo on Jul 21, 2005 18:18:31 GMT -5
rofl. yeah if I don't reply it's because I'm about to shoot. I like the change to the message system where a box doesn't pop up and fuck up my shot... but now if I want to reply to you, I have to type this really long
/m xadukarulesx blah blah blah
And I'm busy calculating so I don't bother typing it. Plus it's hard to type those names with like random X's and I's and O's around them like: IIxIXIoOoO00Lameo00OoOoIXIxII Feel free to add again and I'll prolly accept.
Good luck with the 45 parts. It's not a bad idea, because you can keep the same power always... but it's almost too many parts - The distance between parts on a 30 part screen is so small that it's a little more than half of the width of a typical bot.
Also I think you'll find the way the parts space themselves is very annoying, remember that at angle 60 you almost go the same distance as angle 45, just a hair less. So angles 59-45 will all fall into one tiny area at the end of your screen (like 27 angles will cover the last 1/8th of the screen).
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Post by Flamehawk2 on Jul 22, 2005 9:08:22 GMT -5
hhm... soi really I would have to find the exact distance that they begin to compress, and continus the calculations from... OK I give up, this can't work. Using 2.3 method is much easier anyway. Btw, I have seen your main windchart many times, and I have transfered the whole thing into a chart, but do you have another one that works the exact same that uses decimals instead? Every time I do yours, I get all confused with the #'s. For example: I have a secret for horizontal wind: no matter what your power is, or your angle, just take 3/5 of the wind and adjust by that. Or multuply it by 0.6. But on your windchart, it's like, just didvide it by 2, and alter 1 more if it's above blah blah blah angles. So do you have one that's just decimals but works just the same for the 2.4 method where the screen is split into 30 parts? Thx.
I also hate rounding down because with this windchart, I often have to raise or lower my angle by, "4.8 angles," or something like that, and why woulds I round 4.8 ALL THE WAY DOWN to 4, when it's so close to 5? I don't understand.
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Thx, I'll try to remember to add you soon. I may change my id to something more easily remembered. I like the change too. All you have to do now is: /m CreeDo, then highlight it and ctrl c it so I can paste it repeatedly.
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Do you know where to find the newest version of the Avatar Planner? I can't find an updated one. Mine is just old and has no new avatars and thinks everything is still permanently bought.
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Post by CreeDo on Jul 22, 2005 13:05:31 GMT -5
but do you have another one that works the exact same that uses decimals instead?Philoburn's is pretty close, almost the exact same except he has decimals for vertical winds, where I adjust power for vertical winds instead of angle. creedo.gbgl-hq.com/gunboundwtfchart.jpgYou can round up if you want, but I like rounding the same way every time. If my result tells me "raise angle more than 4 degrees" (like 4.8) I always just raise 4, then reduce my power by a hair to prevent the wind from blowing the shot too far. If the result says "lower angle by more than 4 degrees" then I always add a hair of power. So basically in wind towards I always round down, then lower power, and in wind against I always round down then add power. Since your power will have to change no matter what, it's nice to do it the same way every single time (for me anyway). Do you know where to find the newest version of the Avatar Planner? I can't find an updated one. Mine is just old and has no new avatars and thinks everything is still permanently bought.The official site is www.gunboundavatar.net , that should have it.
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Post by Flamehawk2 on Jul 24, 2005 21:33:37 GMT -5
this doesnt make sense. The Philoburn diagram. Why would you adjust angle in vertical wind...
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Post by CreeDo on Jul 25, 2005 22:29:13 GMT -5
I did it for the longest time, and like a lot of windcharts it works for an "Average" range of angles, for an "Average" distance and an "Average" set of winds.
Like using wind/5 (.2 of wind) will probably work from angles 60 - 79 or so, distances from a bit past 1/3 screen up to 1 screen, winds that aren't unusually strong in either direction, etc.
This might not sound very accurate, but most windcharts are designed with an 'average' in mind and that's why they are all flawed or limited in some why, that's why people still say to me "I followed your chart exactly and it didn't work". When philoburn made that figure for vertical wind he was just using something that covers a lot of situations, just like the .6 and .25 wind factors cover a lot of situations (but not all of them). Maybe it never occurred to him to mix power adjustment into it, or he felt it was too much to expect people to learn both angle adjustment and a special exception with power adjustment.
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