Armour 3 bar windchart

[achala]

Ever since i started using the 3 bar method i started to use this windchart: creedo.gbgl-hq.com/windchart.jpg

Some of my wand friend's say that this is inaccurate for 3 bar method in some winds. I know there are of course an error in every wind chart at least a tiny one, but they are saying not to use your wind charts.

I usually think that the windchart is right, its just that i must have miscalculated. But if there are changes in that windchart for 3 bar shooting method, please list them here.

Edit: I am particularly missing in the NEE to NE region of the windchart(with the grey star), besides that I dont have many problems

Thanks alot

[CreeDo]

Well, my windchart was made for lower power than you're shooting with, and that's why it's failing you.

Basically the shot is in the air longer, so wind blowing against it blows it even closer than you expect, and wind blowing towards your enemy blows the shot even further than you expect. Therefore you might need to lower 1 more angle in against wind or raise 1 more angle in towards wind.

It's still -decent- for 3 bar shooting, just not perfect. In weak winds it works fine, but in 20+ winds it can be 1 or even 2 angles off.

You can stick with and learn from experience how much more you need to adjust, or you can try the knat windchart (all your friends will respect the knat windchart automatically, rofl.)

The knat banpao/3bar windchart is here:

creedo.gbgl-hq.com/3_0formula.htm

Notice that you will need to memorize 4 different windcharts, and in strong against winds they cannot work (3 bars isn't enough to reach the distance needed). Personally I think it's a little nuts to do that. I memorized a general windchart and make small adjustments based on distance and power.

One last tip if you keep missing - all fixed power shots, 3 bar systems included, must have tiny power adjustments depending on distance. You want only 2.95 bars for midrange, 3.0 for near 1 screen and 3.05 for past 1 screen. Don't use just 3 all the time or you'll find you're making tiny misses a lot.

For the northeast corner the wind factors work something like this:

Light wind - .35 works fine, so divide wind by 3 to get a good angle adjustment

Medium wind - it's .4 now, you can use wind/3 but then you should lower 1 more angle.

Strong wind: It's pretty much .5 now, especially if you're using high power or a pretty vertical angle. So you just use wind/2.

Also keep in mind for this very tricky wind area that the higher your original angle, before wind adjustment, the more you must lower your angle to make the same shot. Like if your original angle is 70, and wind is 9 pointing NE, I'd only lower 3 angles. But if you're shooting almost straight up for your original angle (like an original angle of 80) then wind is going to affect it a lot more and you'd better lower 4 angles. That's why the knat chart shots 0 screen shots in this direction as a .5 wind factor, and 1 screen shot as only .4.

It sounds a lot of little rules and exceptions to memorize, and it is, but it's easier to memorize one windchart and then figure all the exceptions to the rules... than it is to memorize 300 windcharts.

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Ok, so if that wasn't tricky enough, the windchart area where you see the 3-5-7-10-20 means your angle must be chosen very carefully, and any tiny difference in wind strength or wind direction will cause large differences in where your shot lands. In this kind of wind, your original angle matters a LOT. Let's say wind is 16 and pointing mostly north and a little east. In this wind, an angle 60 shot might land in the exact same location as a 0 wind shot, but an angle 75 shot will be held back a bit and need you to lower 1 or 2 angles, while a very close shot like angle 89 might need 3 or 4 angles adjustment. This is the most difficult wind to deal with using 2.4-style and banpao-style shooting. Even the knat chart isn't really accurate here. There is no sure formula for it, it's better in this kind of tricky wind to use a low angle like 35.

PS: You know, I used to hate it when people bagged on my windchart, but it's had wrong spots for a long time now and I only just now fixed them. So check out the new fixed windchart. The vertical power adjustment was especially important to fix.

creedo.gbgl-hq.com/windchart.jpg

Also see my windchart add-on if you haven't yet:
creedo.gbgl-hq.com/windchart_addon.jpg

[achala]

Holy moley.... that's a hell of a post!

Man, thanks alot, now, i'm not called noob

I'm sure this has helped a lot of other people and not just me.

This new info works. btw, i have decided not to go with knat's windcharts (way too hard to remember, your /3,/2 etc. is much easier) and instead, use the adjustments to your windchart.

It works like a charm, thanks once again

[dplickers4yo]

this is the first wind chart i use. i think maybe just 70 ~ 80 % accurate. i miss like crap when with the some weird wind also.
wat i wanna mean is dun have "one" pro formula can let u become pro.

so..........

play more-
find out why u miss-
make ur own wind chart-
n eat more vegertable -.-v

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creedo wrote a 1k ++ word. lazy to read it all >.<

[CreeDo]

lol yes - sometimes I write a book. Earlier someone was arguing with me about feel vs. formula and I must have about 10,000 pages on it.
www.gbgl-hq.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5638&st=80&#entry91385

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